The world, according to Marco Rubio

按照Marco Rubio的说法,世界是这样的……

The Global Story

2026-06-11

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As a Florida senator, Marco Rubio seemed to hold an opposing world view to Donald Trump; on Russia-Ukraine, on China, on USAID, and more. He notably called Trump a “con man”, and Trump in turn dubbed him, “little Marco”. And yet now, as US Secretary of State, Rubio has made himself indispensable to the president on foreign affairs, bringing his own background to play in policy on Venezuela and Cuba, and shaping the US’ approach to further interventions abroad. Trump has even indicated that he wants Rubio to run on a joint ticket with JD Vance for the next US presidency. How has Rubio tailored himself to Trump’s world view? And what difference would he bring as a potential presidential candidate? Tom Bateman, the BBC’s State Department correspondent, regularly travels with Rubio, and he joins Asma on today’s show. Producers: Hannah Moore and Aron Keller Executive producer: Bridget Harney Mix: Travis Evans Senior news editor: China Collins Photo: Marco Rubio attends a Senate Appropriations subcommittee to testify about the proposed 2027 budget for the Department of State, June 3, 2026. Credit: Reuters/Evelyn Hockstein.
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  • Foreign policy is one that's solely focused on the national interests of the United States of America,

  • on the defense of our country, both its military defense and our security,

  • but also our economic security and the vibrancy of our economy, our sovereignty and our future.

  • Marco Rubio was once a fierce critic of Donald Trump.

  • But now he's the loyal Secretary of State, the face of American diplomacy, and even a possible heir to the Trump legacy.

  • President Trump's second term in the White House has been defined

  • in part by his global interventions, his focus on the world.

  • And Rubio is a key man in the middle of it all.

  • From the BBC, I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, DC.

  • And today on The Global Story, how does Marco Rubio really see the world?

  • And is he simply executing Trump's foreign policy or shaping it?

  • Tom Bateman, it's such a pleasure to have you in studio in person with us on The Global Story.

  • Thanks for stopping by.

  • It's great to be here, Asma.

  • Thank you for having me.

  • Tom, the reason I wanted us to have this conversation today is because Marco Rubio's

  • name has begun to bubble up more in the political conversations here in the US as a possible presidential candidate.

  • And I covered the 2016 election.