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At an election rally in eastern Germany a couple of weeks ago, this is Gert, a supporter of the far-right AfD party.
The Second World War has nothing to do with us anymore.
That's gone.
Many Germans disagree.
And for decades, their leaders have made pledges like this.
The memory of the Holocaust remains a matter of all the citizens who live in Germany.
That's the former German president, Joachim Gauck, saying there is no German identity without Auschwitz.
To remember the Holocaust is a concern of all Germans, he said in 2015. But Goethe
and other supporters of the AfD party say that promise to never forget the Nazis' crimes is holding Germany back.
We have to look out for ourselves, for our times,
finally becoming the German people we once were, the land of poets and thinkers.
Alternative für Deutschland, the party Goethe supports, says it wants to end what it's called Germany's guilt complex,