TIP844: Uber (UBER): The Autonomy Referendum — Is Mr. Market Completely Wrong? w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O’Malley

TIP844:优步(UBER):自治公投——市场先生是否完全错了?与丹尼尔·马恩克与肖恩·奥马利

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2026-09-06

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Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke revisit Uber (NYSE: UBER), one of the largest holdings in The Intrinsic Value Portfolio, fifteen months after they first pitched it. In that time, Uber’s operating profits have roughly doubled, free cash flow has climbed to about $10 billion a year, gross bookings are compounding around 20% annually, and the board authorized a new $20 billion buyback. And yet the stock is flat, with its multiple of operating profits cut from 55 times down to roughly 22 times. Shawn and Daniel discuss why the market is pricing Uber as though autonomy ends the story — Waymo raising $16 billion at a $126 billion valuation, roughly the same market cap as all of Uber, and formally ending its exclusive partnerships in Austin and Atlanta. They dig into the more than 20 AV partners Uber has lined up in response, from Nuro and Lucid to Rivian, NVIDIA, Zoox, WeRide, Baidu, and Pony.ai, plus Uber’s $14.8 billion offer for Delivery Hero, the margin inflection driven by advertising, insurance normalization, and Uber One — and whether the market is writing down the entire company for a risk that touches maybe a tenth of its profits. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:04:06) Why Uber’s stock is flat while its operating profits have doubled (00:07:19) How Uber’s operating margins swung 55 percentage points in under six years (00:08:40) Why advertising, Uber One, and insurance reform keep pushing margins higher (00:28:49) What Waymo ending its exclusive deals in Austin and Atlanta really means (00:41:17) How much of Uber’s profits are genuinely exposed to robotaxis (00:50:29) Why Uber is racing to sign more than 20 autonomous vehicle partners (00:58:04) What Uber’s $14.8 billion offer for Delivery Hero actually buys it (01:06:39) Why Shawn and Daniel are happy to keep owning Uber Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. 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  • You're listening to TIP.

  • Welcome back folks to The Investor's Podcast,

  • episode 844. And today's a special one because we're not pitching a new company.

  • We're here to discuss a company that I feel gets referenced in nearly every episode that we do.

  • So it definitely deserves to be actually be revisited with a full update,

  • especially since it's one of the largest holdings in our intrinsic value portfolio of stocks.

  • So for context, last year, Sean, you pitched Uber to me and we added it to the intrinsic value portfolio.

  • With some pretty good timing.

  • It was around the time when the market sold off over Terrafears last April, which by now feels like a decade ago.

  • And I would say both of us, including our colleague Stig,

  • have become increasingly excited about Uber's long-term prospects,

  • while the stock on the other side has been basically flat since we first looked at it.

  • So bookings are compounding at around 20% a year.

  • The user base is growing at 16% a year.

  • And free cash flow is running at $10 billion annually.

  • And the company is buying back billions in stock, just $3 billion last quarter alone, shrinking the share count,

  • which is something that we always like to see with our portfolio holdings.

  • And the stock has gone again.

  • Basically nowhere.

  • Recently, we just did an episode talking about our biggest losers and our biggest winners.