Exploring with agents (Interview)

与智能体探索(访谈)

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

2026-04-25

1 小时 36 分钟
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Today on the show I’m talking with Amelia Wattenberger — designer, data-viz veteran, ex-GitHub Next, and now designing Intent at Augment Code. What if the last 30% of any software project is about to become the hardest part you’ve ever done? That’s the argument Amelia is making today. We discuss the identity crisis developers are having as agents take over the keyboard, the epic redesign of developer tooling in this agent-first world, the arc from autocomplete to chat to CLI back to UI, why Intent treats a workspace as their core primitive not a chat thread, the tradeoffs between one-worktree-per-agent vs. one-worktree-per-task, and why she thinks prototyping just got easier but finishing got harder.
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  • What's up?

  • Welcome back to the changelog.

  • I'm Adam Stachowiak and it's been a minute.

  • I've missed you.

  • You know, sometimes you have to retreat to attack.

  • I've said that before in this podcast.

  • How can you push at sustained high output thresholds when you need to slow down and check yourself?

  • Get centered, get focused, and then get back in a groove and do your best work.

  • Rest assured, my friends, the change log is here to stay.

  • Nothing's changing, and I'm working on some really big ideas, and I cannot wait to share them with you.

  • Today, I'm talking with Amelia Wattenberger, designer, data viz veteran, ex-GitHub Next.

  • And now designing intent at augment code.

  • What if the last 30% of any software project you're working on is about to become the hardest part you've ever done?

  • That's the argument Amelia is making today.

  • We discussed the identity crisis developers are having as agents take over the keyboard,

  • the epic redesign of developer tooling in this agent first world we 're in,

  • the arc from autocomplete to chat, to CLI back to UI,

  • why intent treats a workspace as their core primitive and not a chat thread.

  • The treehouse between one work tree per agent versus one work tree per task.

  • And why she thinks prototyping just got easier, but finishing got harder.