2026-10-14
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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Conversations with Tyler.
Today I am chatting with Lyakit Ahmed.
Who is the author of a new and wonderful book, 1873, The Rothschilds, The First Great Depression,
and The Making of the Modern World, which I enjoyed very much.
Many of you will know him as the author of Lords of Finance, The Bankers
Who Broke the World, from 2009, a book that won the Pulitzer Prize for History, and numerous other awards.
Liakit also has extensive experience in the private sector, dealing with the World Bank and the IMF,
and he has headed the World Bank's investment decisions.
He's also produced a movie about Iraq and done much more as well.
Liakit, welcome.
Thank you, Tyler.
I have a general question about how your work fits together.
So your book, Lords of Finance, it convinced me that financial crises really matter.
And your new book, 1873, almost convinced me that financial crises don't really matter
because the world just keeps on growing.
So what makes for the difference for when, historically speaking, crises will really matter?