The fired labor economist who couldn't get unemployment

被解雇的劳动经济学家,无法获得失业津贴

The Indicator from Planet Money

2026-06-08

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A top labor economist encounters the endlessly frustrating labyrinth of filing for unemployment after getting fired by President Trump. Why are unemployment benefits so hard to get, and can we do anything to fix the system?  Fact checking by Sierra Juarez. Your Next Listen — What you need to know about the job report revisions  Connect with The Indicator — Sign up for The Indicator’s brand new newsletter— Find our socials, YouTube and more! — For sponsor-free episodes, subscribe to NPR+ See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy
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  • NPR.

  • In August of 2025, Erica McIntyre lost her job.

  • So she did what a lot of newly unemployed people do.

  • She went to apply for unemployment benefits.

  • And early in the process, she had to verify her identity.

  • In the state that I was applying, it's an app that you download on your phone.

  • You take a picture of your license and then you take a selfie and the software verifies that it's you.

  • Seems simple enough.

  • But Erica actually had a lot of trouble uploading a photo of her license to this app.

  • It would just sort of spin and then die and say "failure to register your picture." And I tried changing the lighting.

  • I tried deleting the app and reinstalling it.

  • I went on Reddit.

  • Erica called the state unemployment office.

  • They told her to just keep trying the app.

  • It was so frustrating that I got stuck on the identity verification step because I was like,

  • "Listen, Google me. Let's get on a Zoom. You can look at my face.

  • I am literally on the front page of the New York Times." Yeah,

  • that's because Erica was arguably the most famous unemployed person in America at the time.

  • President Trump had fired her from her job as commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

  • This is The Indicator for Planet Money.