2026-08-05
34 分钟ERP is the gold standard treatment for OCD.
You probably already know that.
And if you're watching this or listening, there is a very good chance that you also know that ERP is not easy.
Maybe you're thinking, I tried it and I just could not do it.
Maybe the distress felt absolutely and completely unmanageable as you practice ERP.
And maybe you just completely shut down when you tried it.
Maybe you left feeling like you were too broken for the specific treatment that was supposed to help you.
I want you to hear something before we go any further.
You did not fail ERP.
There was probably just a few skills that you were missing.
Today we have Rebecca DeLeon.
She is a DBT specialist and an ERP therapist who works in my private practice here in California in Los Angeles.
She is an incredible therapist and she works every day with people
who have been hit with exactly this concern when they're practicing ERP.
They feel like they just don't have the skills and their emotions are just too strong.
Rebecca teaches us that ERP is still the destination, but we need something first.
We need skills to be able to tolerate the distress of ERP.
And that is where DBT comes in.
DBT is not here to replace ERP.
It's to use before ERP, alongside ERP,