Want to ‘Optimize’ Your Happiness? This Happiness Expert Says: Don’t.

想要“优化”你的幸福吗?这位幸福专家说:别这么做。

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2026-05-30

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Laurie Santos on what will really bring meaning and fulfillment to your life, and what won’t. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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