New world of warcraft: how conflict has forever changed

现代冲突形态的改变

The Intelligence from The Economist

2026-05-29

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Our outgoing defence editor reflects on how war has changed during the eight years of his tenure. Wars have become easier to start and harder to finish, and the little guy has a better chance than ever before. And our obituaries editor pays tribute to Barney Frank, a trailblazing Democratic congressman. Watch extended clips from Insider here Guests and host: Shashank Joshi, defence editorAnn Wroe, obituaries editorJason Palmer, co-host of “The Intelligence” Topics covered:  war, technology, Ukraine, IranBarney Frank Get a world of insights by subscribing to Economist Podcasts+. For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our FAQs page or watch our video explaining how to link your account.
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  • The Economist

  • Hello and welcome to The Intelligence from The Economist.

  • I'm Jason Palmer.

  • Today on the show, a parting shot from our outgoing defence editor on the nature of modern war,

  • and a tribute to the trailblazing congressman Barney Frank.

  • Eight Palestinians have been killed in Israeli drone attacks across Gaza.

  • A strike at a community kitchen in...

  • ...skies over Iran black with smoke...

  • Russia has at long last launched its long-anticipated attack on Ukraine,

  • striking military posts across the country...

  • ...on a world war in Europe...

  • The last eight years have been, to put it mildly, busy.

  • Shashank Joshi is our defence editor and incoming Washington bureau chief.

  • When I started this role in 2018, the biggest questions were over Donald Trump's handling of North Korea,

  • and there seemed like a very real risk of war, perhaps even nuclear war, on the Korean Peninsula.

  • That calmed down, and then of course, we saw the great withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021,

  • the debacle of American troops leaving in chaotic fashion out of Kabul.

  • And I do remember thinking at the time, "God, that was busy,

  • but at least next year will be a little bit calmer."

  • At the time, Vladimir Putin's armies were slowly building up on the edges of Ukraine,