Why Cooking is Caregiving, with Chef Hillary Sterling | Better in Person

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  Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner.

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  This is the second episode of a new video interview show we've just launched called Better in Person.

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  If you'd rather watch it, which I would suggest you do,

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  that's what it was made for, it is on the Freakonomics YouTube channel.

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  But we're also happy to provide this podcast version of Better in Person.

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  For your ears only.

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  As always, thanks for listening.

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  When people send back food, the whole rumor of a chef spitting, please.

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  I've never seen it.

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  No, and that's fucking stupid.

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  Like, come on.

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  This is Better in Person with Stephen Dubner and Hilary Sterling.

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  There aren't many things in this world that you absolutely need to survive and which also bring great pleasure.

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  Food is one of them.

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  For some people, it is so pleasurable to cook for others that they build a career out of it.

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  But it is a relentlessly demanding way to make a living.

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  I recently met a chef who doesn't seem to have lost the pleasure of cooking.

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