Why Ending Roe Wasn’t Enough for the Pro-Life Movement

为何终止罗伊案（Roe v. Wade）对反堕胎运动来说还不够

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

2026-02-05

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Nearly four years after Roe v. Wade was overturned, where is the pro-life movement setting its sights? That’s what I wanted to know from the activist Lila Rose. We spoke last month in front of a live audience at the Catholic University of America. We debated whether her cause was prepared for the fall of Roe and whether abortion still matters at all to the right.  01:55 - Live Action and undercover activism05:53 - Pro-Life 101 and S.L.E.D.13:36 - “The mistake of feminism”17:02 - Pro-family policy22:47 - The political landscape after Roe 42:35 - The pro-life movement beyond politics47:39 - The medical “zone of uncertainty”53:53 - Why should women be pro-life?(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Please subscribe to our YouTube Channel, Interesting Times with Ross Douthat. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • From New York Times' opinion, I'm Ross Douthat.

  • This is Interesting Times.

  • This week we're bringing you something a little bit different.

  • Last month I spoke with the pro-life activist

  • Lila Rose in front of a live audience at the Catholic University of America.

  • We were there to talk about the future of the pro-life movement.

  • And the students in attendance had a lot of questions.

  • My question has to do with the collapse of marriage.

  • I wanted to ask about IVF and specifically how we should go about resolving that.

  • The fundamental question is, when does life begin?

  • I wanted to ask about, I guess, the future of the pro-life movement.

  • And I had my own questions too.

  • Was the pro-life movement really prepared for the fall of Roe v. Wade?

  • Is Donald Trump actually a pro-life president?

  • And in a society that's rapidly polarizing along gender lines,

  • what does the pro-life movement have to say to young women in particular?

  • We got into those and many other subjects.

  • So here's my conversation with Lila Rose.

  • Lila Rose, welcome to this stage at Catholic University, and welcome to Interesting Times.

  • Thank you so much.

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