Noctohabitology (SLEEP PROCRASTINATION) with Vanessa “Nessy” Hill

夜习学(睡眠拖延症)与瓦内萨·“内西”·希尔

Ologies with Alie Ward

2026-08-13

1 小时 37 分钟
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Late night scrolling. Couchlock. Habitual insomnia. You want to sleep —  so why won’t you turn off the light, dumplin’? We’ve got someone for that: sleep scientist, globally known PBS correspondent, host of the series Braincraft, and Noctohabitologist, Dr. Vanessa “Nessy” Hill. So let’s chat about what amount of sleep is “normal,” if farmers had two sleeps, electricity, blue blockers, “me time,” proof that Dolly Parton is an alien from an angel planet, the populations most prone to sleep procrastination, which of 93 scientifically-proven habit-changers are the easiest to implement, and how this expert and I have both personally battled the agony between wanting to rest but avoiding it.  Come. Gather. Get mad. Be healed. Visit Dr. Hill’s website and follow her on Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, and Substack A donation went to Project Sleep More episode sources and links Other episodes you may enjoy: Somnology (SLEEP), Chronobiology (CIRCADIAN RHYTHMS), Oneirology (DREAMS), Attention-Deficit Neuropsychology (ADHD), Obsessive-Compulsive Neurobiology (OCD), Mnemonology (MEMORY), Ergopathology (BURNOUT), Personality Psychology (PERSONALITIES), Misophonology (DISTRACTING SOUND & NOISE RAGE), Dolorology (PAIN) 400+ Ologies episodes sorted by topic Smologies (short, classroom-safe) episodes Sponsors of Ologies Transcripts and bleeped episodes Become a patron of Ologies for as little as a buck a month OlogiesMerch.com has hats, shirts, hoodies, totes! Follow Ologies on Instagram and Bluesky Follow Alie Ward on Instagram and TikTok Editing by Mercedes Maitland of Maitland Audio Productions and Jake Chaffee Managing Director: Susan Hale Scheduling Producer: Noel Dilworth Transcripts by Aveline Malek  Website by Kelly R. Dwyer Theme song by Nick Thorburn Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • Oh, hey, it's your 2002 sedan on hospice, gulping down Pennzoil Alley Ward,

  • and I hope you are sleepy because we're going to fix our lives, all right?

  • Plaguing me most of my life.

  • Is this variology.

  • Somehow, I am friends with a researcher who tackles it.

  • So they did their psychology undergrad at the University of New South Wales, got a master's from Australian

  • National University and a PhD in behavioral psychology with a focus on sleep studies at TQ University.

  • You may have already seen them on their PBS series BrainCraft via YouTube or other news sources.

  • They are highly lauded for their science communication work.

  • They're famous for it.

  • They're also my longtime friend.

  • So picture, if you will, a brilliant

  • and a funny scientist with an air of like a young Winona Ryder in a gossamer sundress.

  • As a fellow Angeleno and a friend, I made them come to my home studio

  • where we did not record in my home studio.

  • But rather we flopped on the couch with my 14-year-old stinky gremlin snoozing between us.

  • We literally talked for hours.

  • It was very hard to edit this episode down.

  • We were just gabbing about why sleeping feels so good, but why sometimes we are like cats resisting a bath about it.

  • So we're going to address that in a moment.