Joan Didion Knew What Hollywood Would Become

乔安·迪迪恩预见了好莱坞将走向何方

Old School with Shilo Brooks

2026-03-12

55 分钟
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The perfect book to read around the Oscars this weekend? Joan Didion’s Play It as It Lays. In this episode, Shilo sits down with Peter Savodnik to discuss Didion’s 1970 novel—a book that seemed to anticipate everything ugly about Hollywood, celebrity culture, and the spiritual emptiness that we now take for granted on the red carpet and on social media. They break down why Didion’s story of an actress drifting through 1960s Los Angeles feels like it could have been written in 2026, how she saw the darker underside of feminist “liberation” long before it was fashionable to question it, and why the real problem with today’s young stars is that we hear from them constantly, leaving little of the mystique that once defined celebrity.  Old School is proudly brought to you by the Jack Miller Center. If you believe in the importance of civic education and want to help prepare the next generation to carry on our democracy, join us at JackMillerCenter.org. Become a paid subscriber to The Free Press today to enjoy exclusive bonus episodes and reduced ads. Click here to subscribe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • I'm Shiloh Brooks.

  • I'm a professor and CEO, and I believe reading good books makes us better men.

  • Today, I'm sitting down with Peter Savodnik.

  • Peter is an editor at the Free Press.

  • Joan Didion's Play It As It Lays, a novel published in 1970, changed Peter's life.

  • Today, I'm asking him why.

  • This is Old School.

  • Peter Savodnik, welcome to Old School.

  • Thank you so much for having me, Sharlow.

  • You chose a book I'd never read and frankly that I loved, Joan Didion's Play It As It Lays.

  • Tell me a little bit about who Joan Didion was.

  • I know she was a journalist and a number of other things, a novelist obviously, but so were you.

  • So who was she and what drew you to her work?

  • So,

  • Didion was a great journalist and is best known for her journalism as one of the kind of founding voices of the new journalism of the 60s and 70s.

  • I think played as it lays, her novel is wonderful and a standout,

  • but the journalism and her insightfulness and ability to translate very complicated ideas,

  • sort of political textures into sort of a conversation.

  • that was accessible to a very wide audience is remarkable.

  • She wrote novels, but she wrote nonfiction, she wrote essays,