2026-03-12
55 分钟I'm Shiloh Brooks.
I'm a professor and CEO, and I believe reading good books makes us better men.
Today, I'm sitting down with Peter Savodnik.
Peter is an editor at the Free Press.
Joan Didion's Play It As It Lays, a novel published in 1970, changed Peter's life.
Today, I'm asking him why.
This is Old School.
Peter Savodnik, welcome to Old School.
Thank you so much for having me, Sharlow.
You chose a book I'd never read and frankly that I loved, Joan Didion's Play It As It Lays.
Tell me a little bit about who Joan Didion was.
I know she was a journalist and a number of other things, a novelist obviously, but so were you.
So who was she and what drew you to her work?
So,
Didion was a great journalist and is best known for her journalism as one of the kind of founding voices of the new journalism of the 60s and 70s.
I think played as it lays, her novel is wonderful and a standout,
but the journalism and her insightfulness and ability to translate very complicated ideas,
sort of political textures into sort of a conversation.
that was accessible to a very wide audience is remarkable.
She wrote novels, but she wrote nonfiction, she wrote essays,