The right way to tax the rich. With Owen Zidar

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The Economics Show

2026-10-30

35 分钟
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What does it really take to get rich in America? Straight As at an elite university or entrepreneurial parents? And as America holds midterm elections and California votes on whether to tax billionaires on their wealth, what does it mean for the rich to be paying their fair share? Host Soumaya Keynes speaks to economist Owen Zidar, co-author of Everywhere Millionaire, Who Is Really Rich in America and How They Got There, about a fairer approach to taxing the wealthy. Can the US tax the rich more without discouraging the entrepreneurs who drive economic growth? Subscribe to Soumaya's show on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. Presented by Soumaya Keynes. Produced by Katya Kumkova. Original music and sound design by Breen Turner. Manuela Saragosa is the executive producer. Flo Phillips is the FT’s head of audio. Thanks to John Cappuccino for his help recording this episode in the Princeton Broadcast Centre. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • When you think of America's rich,

  • you probably think of Silicon Valley billionaires,

  • or perhaps Wall Street bankers.

  • But along with co-author Eric Zwick,

  • economist Owen Zidar has unearthed a whole class of US millionaires hiding in plain sight,

  • from car dealers to plumbing company owners,

  • entrepreneurs who've made their extraordinary fortune from very ordinary businesses.

  • That raises two big questions.

  • What does it take to get rich in America?

  • Hard work, a good business idea, experience, luck?

  • And how much of these riches should the government be taking in tax?

  • As America heads into the midterm elections

  • and California votes on whether to ding billionaires with a tax on their wealth,

  • what does it mean for the rich to be paying their fair share?

  • This is The Economics Show with Soumaya Keynes

  • and I'm joined today by Owen Zidar,

  • co-author of "Everywhere Millionaire: Who is Really Rich in America and How They Got There".

  • Owen, hello.

  • It's great to be here.

  • Um, okay, so on this show we normally start with a very serious question