Inside Ukraine’s Invasion of Russia

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The Daily

2024-08-21

26 分钟
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Warning: this episode contains descriptions of war. When Ukrainian troops crossed over into Russia two weeks ago, it appeared at first to be a largely symbolic gesture. But in the time since, it has emerged as a potentially pivotal moment in the war. Andrew Kramer, the Kyiv bureau chief for The Times, explains what’s behind the audacious Ukrainian operation, and Anton Troianovski, the Moscow bureau chief, explains how Russia’s response could reshape the conflict. Guest: Andrew E. Kramer, the Kyiv bureau chief for The New York Times. Anton Troianovski, the Moscow bureau chief for The New York Times.
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  • My name is Andrew Kramer.

  • I'm a reporter for the New York Times.

  • I'm standing on the highway where ukrainian troops are moving tanks and armored vehicles into Russia.

  • Every few minutes we have tanks, trucks with soldiers rumbling past and in the direction of Russia.

  • From the New York Times, I'm Michael Balbaro.

  • This is the daily Ukraine sliced through the border area, pushed through minefields and thinly manned defenses, and has been pressing deeper into Russia.

  • When Ukraine's military crossed over into Russia two weeks ago, it appeared at first to be a largely symbolic gesture.

  • But in the time since, it's emerged as a defining moment in the two year old war.

  • This is the first major military incursion into Russia since World War two.

  • Today, Andrew Kramer on what's behind the audacious ukrainian operation and Anton Troyanovsky on how Russia's response could reshape the conflict.

  • It's Wednesday, August 21.

  • Andrew, I wonder if you can take us back to the moment when you discovered that this pretty unimaginable thing had occurred.

  • Ukrainian troops entering russian territory, turning the basic equation of this war upside down.