From the New York Times, this is the interview.
I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro.
At a campaign rally in Georgia late last month, Vice President Kamala Harris spoke to supporters about one of the biggest issues in this election, immigration.
She talked up her record as the former attorney general of a border state, and she made a promise as president, I will bring back the border security bill that Donald Trump killed, and I will sign it into law and show.
Donald Trump what real leadership looks like.
That bill she was talking about was negotiated starting late last year by a bipartisan trio of senators.
The Republican in that group was Senator James Langford, a former baptist youth minister from Oklahoma.
Langford clearly has big ambitions in the party.
He's currently running for Senate leadership.
And for months, he worked on that immigration bill with Kirsten Sinema, the independent from Arizona, and Chris Murphy, the Democrat from Connecticut.
It was a rare show of bipartisanship, and after sign off from both Senate party leaders and an endorsement from the White House, the bill looked like it was going to become law.
It would have been the first major piece of bipartisan legislation on immigration in decades.
But then Donald Trump came out against it, saying he didnt want to give democrats a political win on such a sensitive issue during an election year.
And even though the bill contained most of the hardline policies the right had wanted, it became toxic in the GOP.
In the end, only four republican senators voted for it.
The bill tanked, and Langford was left holding the bag.
Ive covered the immigration system since the beginning of my career, so I really wanted to talk to Langford about his experience working so hard on this bill, only to see it fall apart.
And what that failed attempt at bipartisanship shows about the possibility of getting anything done by a republican party that is so beholden to Trump.
Here's my conversation with Senator James Langford.
Senator Langford, before you were in politics, you ran the largest baptist youth camp in the country, Falls Creek.