The Fine Art of Finding Your Calling, With Jeff Goins

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  Maybe finding your calling, discovering your purpose, isn't about getting everything that you thought you wanted in life.

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  Maybe it's really about being open to the shifts and turns and unexpected twists in the plot of our life story that happened along the way and responding to it in the right way.

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  So how do you know that you're doing the work that you're, quote, meant to do?

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  Is there even something that you're meant to do?

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  We get so freaked out by the thought of us toiling away and spending our entire lives doing something, spending the vast majority of our waking hours doing something that's the wrong thing.

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  Is that a legit question?

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  Is there a right thing and a wrong thing?

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  Is there work that works meant to do?

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  Is there a calling or a vocation or a single thing that we should be searching for?

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  Well, that's one of the things that we explore in today's conversation with entrepreneur and author Jeff Goines.

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  And he's gone pretty deep into this question in a provocative new book called the Art of Work.

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  And we're going to go into it as well.

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  I'm Jonathan Fields.

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  This is Good Life project.

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  We've known each other for a couple years now, and what's kind of interesting, and I want to actually pick up a little bit with your personal story and with kind of an interesting shift that you've been going through, because I think it would be interesting for our community of listeners to sort of talk to you mid shift, and we'll dive into some of the stuff that you talk about in the book because it's actually really relevant to, I think, your personal shift.

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  And that is that you became known to me a couple years back as the writer guy.

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  A guy kind of burst onto the scene, started building a huge readership in the online world, and created books and then started teaching with and working with writers and showing them how to actually call themselves writers and become authors and stuff like that.

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  And you're in the midst of this, really, I think, in my mind at least, is kind of a fascinating evolution.

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  And part of that, I think, often comes with a sense of struggle building something really powerful around a particular type of notoriety and then kind of hitting a point where you feel like, huh, I'm bigger than that, or I'm interested in more than that.

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  So take me a little bit deeper into sort of what's happening with you right now.

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