Anatomy of an AI attack

人工智能攻击解剖学

Babbage from The Economist

2026-09-10

39 分钟
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The Hugging Face affair shocked the AI world in July. But after an investigation into the attack on the AI platform, the story has become even stranger. The OpenAI models responsible for the hack were running hundreds of agents that colluded against their makers to carry out the assault. We chew on the implications as the AI race intensifies. Guests and hosts: Nikita Ostrovsky of The EconomistAlex Hern, The Economist's AI writerAlok Jha, The Economist's science and technology editor  Topics covered: Hugging Face cyberattackOpenAIAI self-exfiltration Transcripts of our podcasts are available via economist.com/podcasts.
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  • The Economist.

  • Alex Ann, thanks for holding the fort while I've been away.

  • How has it been?

  • It's been fun.

  • I got terrified by infrared masks.

  • I had to hold my own against Tim Cross on a science topic, which is...

  • I heard that.

  • Quantum computing.

  • It's almost my world.

  • Better you than me.

  • Nikita Ostrovsky is also here.

  • Hi, Nikita.

  • Hi, it's great to be here.

  • And I wanted to bring both of you together because both of you write about AI for The Economist.

  • And I wanted you to help me understand something that I've been reading about.

  • It's been going on over the last few weeks,

  • which is some investigations about a hack on hugging face by some open AI models,

  • which, you know, in July, Nikita, you wrote about and both of you discussed on a previous babbage.

  • And I thought, great episode.

  • I understood what happened.