Zuckerberg, Booker and One Journalist’s Quest For the Real Story

扎克伯格、布克和一位记者对真实故事的追求

Good Life Project

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2015-09-23

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The story of a lifetime only comes around once... Dale Russakoff spent more than three decades as a top news journalist, reporting for The Washington Post for more than 28 years. When Facebook co-founder, Mark Zuckerberg, announced a $100 million grant, teaming with then rock-start mayor, Cory Booker, to revolutionize the Newark schools and create a model for national education reform, she'd found a story worthy of her full attention and her first-ever book. Leaving her job, she spent four and a half years embedded in the lives, conversations and inner-most workings of what seemed, at first, to be positioned as a stunning transformational endeavor. What unfolded on the ground, though, was a profoundly different story. One that seemed straight out of a Shakespearian drama with a complex cast of players, each driven by their own personal and social agendas. At play wasn't just the lives of tens of thousands of kids, many living in desperate poverty and violence, but also a $1 billion budget and thousands of jobs. Russakoff tells this story in her riveting new book, The Prize: Who's in Charge of America's Schools?   In this week's conversation, we dive into this tense and complex drama, played out on both the highest levels of government and business and the most basic level of human interaction, one teacher, one kid, one life at a time. We also explore how growing up in the deep south, the child of an "outlier" family who never bought into segregation, cultivated Russakoff's lens on people and equality. We dive into her career as a journalist and how that world is changing and being largely dismantled. We talk about the good and the bad and explore how the new golden age of podcasting just might end up saving the field. Even if you have zero interest in education, you will love this conversation. Because it's about a breathtaking human drama. It's about power and corruption. It's about the desire to do the right thing and how that gets almost perversely "bent" to the will of too many interests along the way. It's about the need for access to truth, to stories not only well-told but also vigorously researched and validated. It's about one woman's quest to shine the light, even when those who've given her the batteries for her flashlight end up unhappy with what that light ends up illuminating. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • These are human beings, and their flaws aren't evil.

  • They're just flaws, and we can all learn from them.

  • And I felt that there was nothing more important than learning from them.

  • When you think about what's at stake in the lives of the kids and newer, for a number of years now.

  • There'S been a pretty raging debate, at least in the United States, about what to do about education.

  • It seems like the system is broken, but everybody has a different idea of how to fix it.

  • So when about five years ago, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg announced a $100 million educational grant to help remake the Newark school systems and create a national model that would change the game, then journalists, longtime journalist Dale Rusticoff, who'd been in the journalism game for more than three decades, saw it as an astonishing opportunity to go deep into this.

  • So she talked to the players, you know, Zuckerberg and Cory Booker, then mayor of Newark, and Chris Christie, and gained really incredible levels of access and literally rode alongside them, gaining access to car rides, conference rooms, all sorts of private conversations.

  • Deep inside this process as it unfolded, and all different factions did their best to try and make an astonishing change, a reform, a revolution in education happen.

  • What unfolded was not what anybody thought.

  • And she shares this story, this story of incredible heartbreak, incredible inspiration, incredible frustration in a really powerful new book, the Prize.

  • It was eye opening to me in this week's conversation.

  • I sit down with Dale and we talk not just about the education system, but I'm also fascinated by the world of journalism, by what's happening to it, by the astonishing rate of change and where journalism is going.

  • And we even have a conversation about how some journalism is now moving into audio and podcasts and what the future of that might look like.

  • So I'm really excited to share this wide ranging conversation with Dale.

  • I'm Jonathan Fields.

  • This is good life project.

  • There are so many places that I want to go with you.

  • I'm fascinated by you and your career.

  • And also the book that you've just come out with is I wavered between being furious, being surprised, being choked up and emotional because I was just so moved by some of the stories, really powerful.

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