I think the best con artists are ourselves.
At the end of the day, we are so good at just crafting reality to be the way that we think it should be.
So imagine telling your parents, hey, listen, I know what it is that I want to do for a living.
I want to write.
I feel it in my bones.
This is what I want to do.
And then literally saying to them, but, you know, most people can't make a living doing that, and I'm really concerned, and maybe I should just go and do something else.
And then your parents turning around after you literally just graduated near the top of your class in Harvard and have amazing opportunities to do almost anything and saying, no, you're smart.
Figure it out.
Write.
That is an incredible conversation, and it's one that we rarely ever hear about.
In fact, most of the time, we hear the exact opposite conversation.
But that's the conversation today's guest author, journalist essayist Maria Konnikova, had with her parents that led to an astonishing career as a writer, a columnist, and now on her second book, the Confidence Game, which we're going to dive into, which also explores the psychology of the long con of con men.
And it's somewhat horrifying.
And part of what's so horrifying is about that a lot of the same things that the greatest grifters who've ever lived have leveraged are the exact same things that so many people leverage to build companies to market and to also do extremely extraordinary good in the world.
And we talk about that really gray area.
Really excited to share this conversation.
I'm Jonathan Fields.
This is good life project.
I'm really excited to explore.