You're going to need to maintain your sobriety the rest of your life, which originally sounds like this awful and daunting thing.
But what I found is that the things that I do to maintain my sobriety are the same things that make me happy and serene and peaceful.
They're the same thing.
So I'm driven to those things kind of under the threat of death in my case.
But sooner or later I realized, like, well, those are the things I want to be doing.
So at some point in our lives, we all get knocked down on some level.
Today's guest, Eric Zimmer got hit pretty hard.
When he got knocked down.
It was a bit earlier in his life, and he found himself at one point living in a van, addicted to heroin.
And it was a huge struggle and it took years to fight his way back to some level of normalcy and rebuild his life and his career and family.
And he was doing pretty well.
And then he took another hit.
But this time he approached it differently and really took the time to start to re examine his life and build the practices and people and strategies and ideas into it that would illuminate the path forward for hopefully his remaining days, which he's still a young guy, are going to be a lot.
In today's conversation, we talk about this journey.
He's incredibly transparent and real and generous.
He's also the co founder and host of a really tremendous podcast called the one you feed that I am a regular listen to and I have been a past guest on the show and I really enjoy.
So you guys should definitely check that out as well.
And I think you're going to really enjoy and learn from his lens on how to move through some of the more challenging times in life and do it in sort of an adult way that honors the responsibilities that you also may have built around you as you moved into life as well.
Really excited to share this conversation with you.
I'm Jonathan Fields.