2016-04-25
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And we've gendered bravery to be male and fear to be female, and fear is actually a female trait.
I mean, when you laugh and giggle and say, I'm too scared to do that, nobody blinks an eye.
If a boy said that, they'd be very worried about him.
Caroline Paul wasn't the kid who dreamed of being a firefighter when she was little.
In fact, she dreamed of being a writer, and she became a writer, and she pitched at some point a story to actually cover the San Francisco fire department.
That story, she quickly learned, wasn't just a story that she felt she wanted to write about, it was a story she felt called to live.
She became fascinated with the fire department, so much so that she became a San Francisco firefighter and had a long career there and eventually wrote a book about her experiences, which led her back to that deeper passion, that sort of underlying Jones to continue writing, and a series of additional books, and most recently, a book called the Gutsy Girl, which is all about really reclaiming a sense of adventure, especially for girls and for women.
Today's conversation is wide ranging.
As always, we go deep into her personal journey, the choices we made, what it was like living the different parts of her life as a woman and as a woman who was out in the San Francisco fire department in a time where both were extraordinary, ordinarily unusual circumstances, all the way through to returning to writing and writing this most recent book.
I hope you enjoy this conversation.
I'm Jonathan Fields and this is good life project, so it's so good to be hanging out with you.
I thought a fun jumping off point might actually be something that you just wrote last week, or maybe you wrote it a little bit before, but it went up on Ted last week, which was this article about boys reading girls books.
Can you take me into that a little bit?
Yeah.