So don't go, oh, find somebody who's successful and then do what they did.
Find somebody who's successful and happy and find out why did that succeed and why were they happy.
Now learn from that and say, what if that is transferable to you and your situation.
My guest today is Dave Evans.
Dave is the co creator and co teacher of one of the most popular courses at the Stanford D school, or design school, all about designing your life.
And he's taken this thing called, this approach to problem solving, to creating amazing solutions called design thinking and applied it to the problem of figuring out what to do with your life.
What are you here for?
And they've been teaching this course for coming close to, I think, about a decade now at Stanford, more and more people start asking them, hey, we're not in school and we're not students, but were really curious about what you're doing.
And they distilled the entire curriculum into a book, which is absolutely fascinating.
We kind of navigate that without talking all that much directly about it as we navigate Dave's story, his personal story, he came up actually in California thinking he wanted to be a marine biologist as a kid.
Found out quickly that wasn't for him.
Somehow ended up becoming an engineer and then was on some of the early teams at Apple and then electronic arts and navigated a really remarkable wayfinding jagged that has brought him to a place of deep awakening.
And I wanted to spend some time finding out how he got to where he is and how he developed his methodology, his approach to designing your life.
It turns out that we have a huge amount of overlap in the way that we see the world and some different tools and some different languaging.
And I thought it would be really fascinating to share not only his story and his ideas with you.
So I am so excited to share Dave Evans with you, his ideas, and of course, a whole bunch of tools out of his new book, which is called designing your life, who he co authored with his partner in teaching and in writing, Bill Burnett.
I'm Jonathan Fields, and this is good life project.
Did you have anything for breakfast?
Just coffee, actually.
You know, when we travel, better say.