2017-03-27
59 分钟Fear is a crossdresser.
Fear is this really interesting emotion that likes to cross dress as other things.
It's much easier to be angry than afraid.
It's easier to be hateful than afraid.
And so people will say the easier emotions instead of the underlying emotion.
So a lot of the time, fear is rearing its ugly head as something else.
Today's guest, Vanessa van Edwards, really struggled to fit in as a kid.
Maybe that's not all that unusual.
I know I was not the most comfortable person in social scenarios either.
And honestly, still, I'm not.
The thing about her is that as she grew up, the problem actually probably got worse and worse, until a moment where she was challenged by a professor to turn her fierce, fierce devotion to knowledge and to academics, loose on her ability to actually study and code human social interaction.
That has become her profession.
And in fact, she's got a new book called Captivate, which basically reveals the code of human interaction, which I found absolutely fascinating because I'm a little bit obsessed with how people interact with each other.
And as somebody who was always the one who admittedly hung out in the kitchen during parties and often still does, the ability to come out of the kitchen, the ability to understand how to move into a room and feel okay, how to understand and the most nuanced parts of social interaction, the idea that that is actually trainable is profound on so many levels, not just personal, but when you apply it to the world on just such a wide range of possibilities.
So I wanted to have this conversation with her so I could both understand her journey, what took her here, and start to deconstruct some of these things and share some of these ideas with you.
Really excited to share this conversation, Jonathan.
I'm Jonathan Fields.
This is good life project.
There is an interesting conversation swirling around it.
So tell me about power posing.