2017-10-09
1 小时 3 分钟Getting expelled, no big deal.
The cops, no big deal.
The FBI, not as big of a deal.
My parents being like, oh, my God, our son's a bad person.
Worst feeling ever.
Imagine being around 14 or 15 years old, getting a knock at the door, opening up, and seeing the FBI standing there saying, kid, we gotta talk.
Well, that's pretty close to the scenario that this week's guest, Jordan Harbinger, who also happens to be now the founder of the Art of Charm, the Art of Charm podcast, which is this massive, massive podcast.
That's the place he found himself in as a kid.
Turns out he was fascinated.
His brain works in this really interesting way with how things work.
He's a puzzle solver.
He wants to deconstruct, to reverse engineer, and then rebuild.
And his focus when he was younger was on computers and technology and especially communications devices, which ended up getting him in a little bit of a squeeze with the local authorities and then eventually the FBI.
But instead of it causing problems, he was so advanced and complex in what he was doing, he ended up actually sort of working with the FBI and advising them at a really young age.
In his teens, he moved on, eventually went to college, went to law school, and started practicing law.
And in the practice of law, realized that there was actually this bigger problem that he wanted to solve.
He wanted to understand how human socialization works.
And he's now spent pretty much his entire adult life deep in that world.
We track that journey.
We go through how he started, how he's developed his ideas, his methodology, how he start to figure out why this mattered and how it worked.