Michael Pollan: Psychedelics, Science, Fear and Hope.

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  So if I asked you whether you'd be willing to take LSD or magic mushrooms in the name of expanding your consciousness, I'm guessing most people would probably say no.

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  What if I asked you whether you'd be willing to do it once in the name of being exceptional at your job, of being way more creative, of having an edge in your professional life?

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  I'm guessing a couple of people would raise their eyebrows.

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  Now what if I asked you if you'd be willing to do it because you are suffering from years of treatment resistant depression, pervasive sustained anxiety, PTSD?

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  Well, that kind of changes the equation a little bit for most people.

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  And that is the conversation that we're having with today's guest, Michael Pollan.

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  Michael, you probably recognize his name.

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  He is the author of, I believe, seven massive New York Times best selling books including food Rules, Yom Noor's Dilemma, Cookt and a Bunch of others.

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  He has a new book out called how to change your mind, which is a pretty fascinating deep dive into the world of psychedelic molecules.

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  These things that I was just talking about, and we're not talking about just mystical experiences and expanding consciousness.

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  It's a really fascinating look at both the therapeutic, the research, and the political history of these substances, the fact and the fiction.

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  And man, is there a lot of fiction?

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  And the resurgence, the profound resurgence of interest in these substances in the academic and scholarly research communities now.

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  There are now large scale trials going on at some of the biggest, most acclaimed and reputable research institutes in the world, like Johns Hopkins and NYU.

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  And some of the outcomes, the early outcomes, are pretty astonishing.

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  So we go into the ethical questions, the research outcomes, and then we dive into Michael's personal experience as he pretty much does with everything that he writes.

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  There comes a time where he feels that he cant write without in some way being able to write from the inside out and describe from his own experience what this whole thing is about.

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  And thats exactly what he did.

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  And he shares his own experience and how he kind of grappled with some of the questions around it as well.

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  Really excited to share this deep dive with you.

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