2019-02-19
1 小时 3 分钟So my guest today, Scott Barry Kaufman, has a PhD from Yale, an MPhil from Cambridge, and now teaches at Barnard.
That's not too shabby for a kid who is labeled as lesser than put into special education and told he didn't have the intelligence to really achieve anything meaningful in school or life.
And all it took was a single moment in 9th grade where a teacher of his took note of his kind of innate curiosity and abilities and prompted him to to reclaim control over his education and eventually life.
In that moment, everything changed.
Now he is an acclaimed psychologist, researcher professor.
He embraces a kind of a humanistic, integrative approach that really takes into account a wide range of human variation, from learning disabilities to intellectual and creative giftedness, to introversion, narcissism, and something he calls twice exceptionality, all in the name of helping all kinds of minds live a more creative, more fulfilling, more meaningful life.
Scott also writes the weekly beautiful mind for Scientific American.
He hosts the psychology podcast, which is awesome.
You should check it out.
He writes.
His books include Ungifted and Wired to create two awesome reads.
And lately he's been taking a serious deep dive into self actualization and transcendence, getting rare access to Maslow's published and private writing that has fueled his own research and identified the key elements of what it takes to really step more fully into the experience of life.
Super excited to share this wide ranging and eye opening conversation with you.
I'm Jonathan Fields, and this is good life project.
Incredibly accomplished by all possible sort of like ways people might describe you from the outside in.
The word intelligent is going to creep into the conversation.
Yet if we take a big step back in time when you were a little kid, your experience of the way that people sort of treated you was very different.
Yeah, it's very surreal to me when people say that, like, you're brilliant.
I'm not saying like, everyone says that, but I'm saying whenever someone says you're smart or whatever, it's very, very surreal to me to hear that because it definitely was not part of my self schema.
Growing up so kind of like, was hard for me to transition to adulthood, where that was like an adjective, like people were actually seeing, perceiving that.