2019-06-27
1 小时 7 分钟So, Nadia Bolz Webber, my guest today, grew up in Colorado Springs in the late seventies and eighties, which is an interesting time to be there.
Brought up in a pretty devoutly religious household, she rebelled against nearly any version of other people's proclamations and rules in her late teens and found herself on her own navigating various worlds, drinking, doing drugs, and finding her way into various jobs, eventually doing stand up comedy in her twenties and mid years.
All the while, though, she kind of lived with this perpetual deep sense of loneliness, always in search of community and a philosophy of living that felt right to her, that was inclusive, that was steeped in deep wisdom, but welcomed everybody in years later, sitting down with her now with a body covered in tattoos and a deeper sense of both openness and conviction.
Her search actually ended her back in the lutheran faith where she became ordained, then founded and served as the lead pastor at the Lutheran congregation in Denver House for all sinners and saints.
And her vision there was to create a place where anyone, including those who'd always felt like outsiders, could come and find a sense of belonging and grace.
She had a very unfiltered style, provocative, challenging, non traditional, and a willingness to tell it like it is.
That really raised eyebrows.
And that was blended with a deep ferocity of commitment and also an even deeper knowledge and progressive interpretation of scripture.
And she drew a huge community of people who'd previously felt pretty much pushed away or left behind by faith.
In 2013, Nadia penned a really raw, honest memoir called Pastrix, followed by a critically acclaimed New York Times bestseller, Accidental Saints in 2015.
And just last year, she actually stepped away a decade later from the congregation she founded to explore, I guess, the next leg of her life as more of a writer, a public theologian and speaker.
Her new book, Shameless, is a deep Dive, exploring the issue of sex and religion, challenging a lot of the core beliefs and teachings and tenets, many long taught rules, and inviting a real redemption, reconciliation, a reconsideration of the role of sex in life, love, liberation and faith.
Really excited to share this conversation with you.
I'm Jonathan Fields, and this is good life project.
I grew up with.
We had this massive picture window in our house and it just framed Pikes Peak.
Oh, no kidding.
So you're like literally just looking out in the mountains, man.
So you are.
So you grew up in, you would have been in Colorado Springs like basically late seventies, early eighties, seventies, eighties.