2026-03-23
38 分钟You're listening to How to Be a Better Human.
I'm your host, Chris Duffy.
Our guest today is Michael Pollan, the acclaimed journalist and writer who changed the way
that millions of people thought about plants and food with his books
The Omnivore's Dilemma and The Botany of Desire.
But in recent years, Michael has become fascinated with the way that plants can do more
than just give us a delicious meal.
They can also change the way we see the world, sometimes literally.
Michael dove into psychedelics with his book How to Change Your Mind.
And now he's looking at the question of consciousness itself in his latest book, A World Appears.
If there is anyone who could make us re-examine what it means to be human
and what it means to be ourselves, it 's Michael Pollan.
And to show you that these are issues and ideas that Michael has been thinking about for decades,
here is a clip from his 2008 TED Talk where he challenges the idea that we humans
are the only conscious beings on Earth.
Looking at the world from other species points of view is a cure
for the disease of human self-importance.
You suddenly realize that consciousness which we value and we consider the crowning achievement
of nature, human consciousness, is really just another set of tools for getting along in the world.
And it 's kind of natural that we would think it was the best tool,