How to understand your own consciousness (w/ Michael Pollan)

如何理解自己的意识(与迈克尔·波伦对谈)

How to Be a Better Human

2026-03-23

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What is consciousness? Humans and animals have it, but do plants have sentience? These are the questions journalist Michael Pollan studies. Michael is the author of ten books on the relationship between food, consciousness, and psychedelics. Michael joins Chris to discuss why humans ruminate, how people should get comfortable with boredom, and whether we can really trust our own memories? Host & Guest Chris Duffy (Instagram: @chrisiduffy | https://chrisduffycomedy.com/) Michael Pollan (Instagram: @michael.pollan | Website: https://michaelpollan.com/)  Links Buy Chris’ book, Humor Me, at https://t.ted.com/ZGuYfcL For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/BHTranscripts Learn more about our flagship conference happening this April at attend.ted.com/podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • You're listening to How to Be a Better Human.

  • I'm your host, Chris Duffy.

  • Our guest today is Michael Pollan, the acclaimed journalist and writer who changed the way

  • that millions of people thought about plants and food with his books

  • The Omnivore's Dilemma and The Botany of Desire.

  • But in recent years, Michael has become fascinated with the way that plants can do more

  • than just give us a delicious meal.

  • They can also change the way we see the world, sometimes literally.

  • Michael dove into psychedelics with his book How to Change Your Mind.

  • And now he's looking at the question of consciousness itself in his latest book, A World Appears.

  • If there is anyone who could make us re-examine what it means to be human

  • and what it means to be ourselves, it 's Michael Pollan.

  • And to show you that these are issues and ideas that Michael has been thinking about for decades,

  • here is a clip from his 2008 TED Talk where he challenges the idea that we humans

  • are the only conscious beings on Earth.

  • Looking at the world from other species points of view is a cure

  • for the disease of human self-importance.

  • You suddenly realize that consciousness which we value and we consider the crowning achievement

  • of nature, human consciousness, is really just another set of tools for getting along in the world.

  • And it 's kind of natural that we would think it was the best tool,