Why you are starved for creativity—and how to fix it (w/ Katina Bajaj)

为何你创意枯竭——以及如何解决(与卡蒂娜·巴贾交谈)

How to Be a Better Human

2026-07-06

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Katina Bajaj is a scientist studying “creative health.” She looks at the role of play, fun, art, and creativity in our overall wellbeing. When was the last time you’ve gone on an “awe walk?” For Katina, carving out time where she’s not listening to music or podcasts on her walks but instead smelling the hydrangeas or allowing her mind to wander is a key way to destress. Katina joins Chris to talk about why adults are starved for creativity and why it’s important to push through the discomfort when trying something new for the first time. Featured guest Follow Katina Bajaj on Instagram, LinkedIn, and at https://www.katinabajaj.com/Subscribe to Katina's Substack Creative HealthWatch Katina's TED Talk Connect with the team Follow Chris on Instagram and at chrisduffycomedy.comBuy Chris’ book, Humor Me Watch How to Be a Better Human videos on YouTube at TEDAudioCollectiveFollow TED on X, Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, and TikTokFor the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/BHTranscripts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • This is How to Be a Better Human.

  • I'm your host, Chris Duffy.

  • We're in the middle of a series right now on our podcast that's all about the importance of play.

  • It's been really fun to think about how play could work more in our lives

  • and what a more playful life might look like.

  • But this week, on this episode, we want to talk more about the why.

  • Why is play actually such a big deal?

  • Why does having a playful life matter?

  • What is the science behind it?

  • That's what today's guest Katina Bajaj studies.

  • She has a master's in clinical psychology from Columbia University's MindBody Institute.

  • And Katina describes her work as the intersection of psychology, neuroscience,

  • and behavior change, making the case for why our creative health isn't a luxury,

  • but a necessity in an ever-changing world.

  • Here's a clip from Katina's TED Talk.

  • When I was eight years old, I had this ritual.

  • After I finished my homework, I'd head upstairs to my room, turn on my favorite Christina Aguilera CD,

  • and sit on the floor, surrounding myself with all this stuff that was supposed to make me playful.

  • I'd take out my Barbies one by one, spread out my markers in every color,

  • and then I'd wait and I'd wait and I'd wait until something felt worthy enough, perfect enough to make.