2026-07-06
43 分钟This is How to Be a Better Human.
I'm your host, Chris Duffy.
We're in the middle of a series right now on our podcast that's all about the importance of play.
It's been really fun to think about how play could work more in our lives
and what a more playful life might look like.
But this week, on this episode, we want to talk more about the why.
Why is play actually such a big deal?
Why does having a playful life matter?
What is the science behind it?
That's what today's guest Katina Bajaj studies.
She has a master's in clinical psychology from Columbia University's MindBody Institute.
And Katina describes her work as the intersection of psychology, neuroscience,
and behavior change, making the case for why our creative health isn't a luxury,
but a necessity in an ever-changing world.
Here's a clip from Katina's TED Talk.
When I was eight years old, I had this ritual.
After I finished my homework, I'd head upstairs to my room, turn on my favorite Christina Aguilera CD,
and sit on the floor, surrounding myself with all this stuff that was supposed to make me playful.
I'd take out my Barbies one by one, spread out my markers in every color,
and then I'd wait and I'd wait and I'd wait until something felt worthy enough, perfect enough to make.