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When he was in his 20s, it was years ago, Pablo Torre started appearing on TV talking about sports.
Talking about something that now...
Kind of embarrassed about.
I was a gas bag on ESPN.
Various people did not like me, I think.
I just sort of represented this new young person who is vaguely Asian, but also Mexican.
I'm Filipino.
That answers that mystery.
But I had this take from the very beginning of my time on TV back in 2012,
which was we debate in sports all of the time.
How much did the refs blow this?
What's the call have been?
Who's the hero?