1979: How the U.S. and Iran Went From Allies to Enemies

1979年:美伊如何从盟友变为敌人

The Daily

2026-06-12

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At the heart of the current U.S. war against Iran is an inconvenient truth: that the United States is, in many ways, responsible for creating the very regime it now seeks to topple. Today, Scott Anderson, a New York Times Magazine contributor, tells the story of America’s outsize role in the Islamic Revolution, and why all these years later we’re still no closer to understanding Iran. Guest: Scott Anderson, a contributing writer for The New York Times Magazine. Background reading: It has been a trying time for the Islamic republic of Iran. Photo: George Tames/The New York Times For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • This podcast is supported by from New York Times.

  • I'm Michael Balbaro.

  • This is the daily at the heart of the current US war against Iran is an inconvenient truth that the United

  • States is in many ways responsible for bringing about the very regime that it now seeks to topple today.

  • My colleague Times Magazine contributor Scott Anderson tells us the story of America's outsized

  • role in the Iranian Revolution and why all these years later, we're still no closer to understanding Iran.

  • It's Friday, June 12th.

  • Scott, welcome to the daily.

  • Thank you.

  • It's very nice to be here.

  • It's great to have you here.

  • We are at a moment in this almost four month long conflict between the United States

  • and Iran where the hostility and the distrust on both sides means that the ceasefire is kind of in name.

  • Only right kind of a postmodern type of ceasefire exactly and the peace talks that are supposed to be built atop

  • that postmodern shaky ceasefire are pretty much a mess and at the heart of this all is a Profound decades old hatred,

  • and I don't think that's too strong a word between the governments of Iran and the US and it's a hatred

  • whose origins we've never quite definitively told the story of on this show and You, not long before the war began,

  • pulled that story in what turned out to be a very well-timed book called King of Kings.

  • And what your book so powerfully recounts is that this relationship

  • between the US and Iran wasn't always filled with animus.