Episode 395: Who You Are Without All The Stuff with Hayley DeRoche

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  Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

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  I'm Dori Shafrir.

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  And I'm Elise Hu, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

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  And today we have Haley DeRoche on the show.

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  You may know her better by her social media moniker, Sad Beige.

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  Sad Beige.

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  Or as she's known on Instagram, Official Sad Beige.

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  I have been a follower of Haley's for a long, long time.

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  I love everything she does on social media and her writing.

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  And she has a new book out called The Sad Beige Parents Handbook.

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  So we had a great conversation.

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  She's so smart and so perceptive.

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  And yeah, I think you'll really enjoy our chat.

• 00:56

  Elise, what's going on with you?

• 00:58

  I know that our show open line is that we talk about serums, but I just wanted to do a quick shout out.

• 01:06

  For my Tatcha Matcha, it rhymes.

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  There is a Tatcha Matcha Cleanser.

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  The Matcha Cleanse by Tatcha.

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  And I'm now using it to wash my face.

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  And I really like it.

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