#464 — The Politics of Pragmatism and the Future of California

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  I am here with Matt Mayhem.

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  Matt, thanks for joining me.

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  Thanks for having me, Sam.

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  So you are the current mayor of San Jose and running for governor of California as a Democrat.

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  And you are much celebrated privately.

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  It should happen much more publicly.

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  And I'm hoping to put my shoulder to the wheel on that front for being someone

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  who's just pragmatic and not crazy in the Democratic Party.

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  And that has been all too rare in recent years.

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  Welcome to the podcast.

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  Great to have you.

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  Thank you.

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  I'm looking forward to our conversation.

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  So let's just talk about the beginning here.

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  How did you get into politics and how did you decide to be mayor of San Jose?

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  I think it really goes back to being a kid.

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  I grew up in Watsonville, which is a little farming town, and we had a lot of challenges in our town.

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  We had high unemployment, a lot of crime.

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  When it was time for high school, our local high school had a higher dropout rate than graduation rate.

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  And my mom, who was a teacher, really you know, cared deeply about my sisters

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