Former CIA Spy: How to Eliminate Self-Doubt, Build Confidence, and Protect Yourself in Today’s World

前CIA间谍:如何消除自我怀疑,建立自信,并在当今世界保护自己

The Mel Robbins Podcast

2026-08-17

1 小时 9 分钟
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Today, a former spy and the former Chief of Disguise for the CIA is taking you inside the heart-pounding world of espionage and the secret life she lived working undercover for 30 years.  Jonna will share the tactics and strategies you need to read anyone and spot a liar, offer a powerful warning about the state of the world today, and give you practical wisdom to find courage and face life’s hardest moments. For decades, Jonna helped intelligence officers assume new identities, disappear in plain sight, and carry out high-risk operations.  Jonna created disguises convincing enough to fool the President of the United States and the Secret Service.  Together, Jonna and her late husband, Tony Mendez, co-authored the bestselling book Argo about the CIA operation he led - the true story that inspired the Academy Award-winning film Argo. But what makes this conversation so powerful is not just the spy stories.It is Jonna’s deeply personal reflection on courage, reinvention, trust, loss, and what it means to keep going when life feels scary or uncertain. In this episode, you’ll learn: - Why courage does not come first and how confidence and preparation create it - How to stay calm under pressure  - What 30 years in the CIA taught Jonna about trusting your intuition - The signs that someone may be trying too hard to convince you of a lie - Why direct eye contact is not the lie detector most people think it is - How Jonna would change the smallest details to make someone disappear in plain sight - Why you are never starting over when you make a major change - How to stop underestimating yourself and aim higher - Why nothing meaningful is accomplished alone - How taking small steps can help you face problems that feel too big to solve Jonna will tell you that courage is not something you either have or you do not. It comes from knowing what to do, preparing yourself, and confronting the things that scare you. After today, you'll understand how to build confidence, trust yourself under pressure, and have the courage to reinvent your life…at any age. For more resources related to today’s episode, click here for the podcast episode page.  If you liked this episode, listen to this one next: It’s Not Too Late: How to Transform Your Life at Any Moment Mel wants to add: Try the 23g protein shot I drink every single morning Join 2 million readers loving my weekly newsletter - full of tips, tools, and inspiration The Let Them Theory: read the book everyone’s talking about Watch the episodes on YouTube Connect with me on Instagram Follow the show’s Instagram for clips, behind the scenes, and more Find some daily positivity on my TikTok Want zero ads? Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes ad-free Disclaimer Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • Hey, it's your friend Mel, and welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast.

  • Today, the former chief of disguise for the CIA, a woman who spent three decades working undercover,

  • is here in our Boston studios with a moving, inspiring, and heart-pounding reflection of her remarkable life.

  • Her name is Jonna Mendez, and she's about to put you at the scene of the most dangerous and scary moments

  • working for the CIA as she extracts timeless wisdom from this extraordinary career.

  • You're going to hear how she helped intelligence officers assume new identities and disappear in plain sight.

  • Operations under surveillance in China and Russia, extracting agents undercover in one particular story about trying

  • to get a family of three across a foreign border that will leave you on the edge of your seat.

  • As the former chief of disguise, Jonna Mendez reveals how she created spy disguises,

  • convincing enough to fool even the president of the United States.

  • She'll tell you about the secret gadgets intelligent officers have used around the world and the telltale

  • signs that someone is lying to you based on their body language alone.

  • What makes this episode so powerful are her deeply personal reflections on the passing of time.

  • The friends she's lost, and a profound warning on the state of the world today.

  • But through it all, she offers unwavering hope, reassurance,

  • and practical wisdom to help you find courage, make a difference, and overcome life's hardest moments.

  • This message is brought to you by Apple Card.

  • Ice cream by the beach.

  • Going to mini golf with the family.

  • Checking out a new restaurant in town.