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Welcome to the conversation from the BBC World Service.
This is the programme that allows us to hear from two incredible women from around the world doing extraordinary things.
I'm Dashiani Navanayagam.
Today we're talking cricket and the women making their mark as umpires,
officiating at the highest levels of both the women's and men's international and domestic cricket matches.
My guests are Virinda Rati, who became the first Indian woman to officiate