Daniel Ek: Life After Spotify, Broken Healthcare Incentives, Catching Disease Early & AI's Potential

丹尼尔·艾克:Spotify之后的生活,医疗激励机制的破裂,早期发现疾病以及人工智能的潜力

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

2026-09-29

51 分钟
PDF

单集简介 ...

(0:00) Daniel Ek joins the Besties! (1:14) Starting Spotify: Beating piracy and betting his own money on the record labels (6:10) Neko Health: The Spotify playbook for healthcare, the $499 body scan, and why US healthcare waits until you're sick (36:04) AI: Tech's failure to sell the upside, open vs. closed models, and regulating compute (44:24) Back to Spotify: Podcasting's open standards and the Stardoll origin story Thanks to our partners for making this possible!   As wealth grows, complexity compounds. Between investments, tax strategy and estate planning, coordinating it all can feel like a full-time job. Creative Planning can help with the heavy lifting. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/trackclk/N2598215.3565131ALLIN/B36182939.452362736;dc_trk_aid=646454825;dc_trk_cid=260464105;dc_lat=;dc_rdid=;tag_for_child_directed_treatment=;tfua=;ltd=;dc_tdv=1    Starting a business? Northwest Registered Agent gives you everything you need to build a complete Business Identity including free tools and built-in privacy. Get more at https://www.northwestregisteredagent.com/ALLINFREE    Follow the besties:  https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg   Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod   Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod   Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@allin   Follow on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod   Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg   Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect   #allin #tech #news
更多

单集文稿 ...

  • All right, everybody, welcome back to the All In interview show,

  • where we, the All In podcast, dedicate an hour to just some of the great thinkers, creators of our time.

  • And today will be no different.

  • Daniel Eck is with us.

  • You know him, the co-founder of Spotify, which he started 20 years ago,

  • and he ran it for those two decades to an extraordinary state of affairs today.

  • Well over 700 million active users, over 300 million premium subscribers.

  • But on January 1st this year, he shifted and became the executive chairman with me.

  • And David Freeberg today.

  • Daniel Leck, how are you, sir?

  • Welcome to the program.

  • Well, thank you so much for having me.

  • It's good to be on.

  • Yeah, it's good to see you.

  • We've known each other for 20 years.

  • I remember the first Shaq, your partner, leaned into me at an internet summit

  • or something and said, hey, check this out.

  • And he showed me Spotify.

  • But this was at a time when...

  • Nobody had a subscription service.