Inside the mind of Demis Hassabis

深入理解戴密斯·哈萨比斯的内心世界

Babbage from The Economist

2026-04-08

41 分钟
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The AI race is intensifying. It wasn’t supposed to be this way, according to Demis Hassabis, the boss of Google DeepMind. Journalist and biographer Sebastian Mallaby has had unprecedented access to Mr Hassabis over the past three years. In this episode, he tells us how the AI pioneer was swept into a commercial and geopolitical contest that he never expected. Can Mr Hassabis’s aim of safely building artificial superintelligence still be achieved? Guests and hosts: - Sebastian Mallaby, author of “The Infinity Machine” - Host: Alok Jha, The Economist’s science and technology editor Topics covered: - Demis Hassabis and Google DeepMind - AI safety and regulation - China’s open-source AI industry Watch Inside Tech's recent interview with Demis Hassabis on The Economist's app. Transcripts of our podcasts are available via economist.com/podcasts. Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—subscribe to Economist Podcasts+. For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our FAQs page or watch our video explaining how to link your account.
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  • The frontier of the AI race is not just about the technology, it's also about the people who lead the labs.

  • OpenAI's Sam Altman.

  • There 's no, like, one big magic red button we have that blows up the data center,

  • which I think some people sort of assume exists.

  • Anthropik's Dario Amadei.

  • My feeling is that almost every decision that I make feels like it's kind of balanced on the edge of a knife.

  • And xAI's Elon Musk.

  • I don't think anyone's ultimately going to have control over digital superintelligence.

  • You know, any more than, say, a chimp would have control over humans.

  • These are the public faces of an increasingly intense contest to build AI models that exceed human capabilities,

  • whether they call it AGI or superintelligence.

  • You'll notice I missed out an important player in that list, Demis Hassabis, the boss of Google DeepMind.

  • He does n't feature as often in the headlines,

  • even though he 's been at the forefront of AI research longer than any of the others.

  • DeepMind is, of course, the company that built AlphaGo,

  • which managed to beat one of the world's best players of the board game Go in 2016.

  • Demis and his team went on to create AlphaFold, an AI model that can predict the 3D structure of proteins.

  • He won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for that work in 2024.

  • For him, the best use of AI is to accelerate science,

  • as he told my colleague Alex Hearn this week on our Inside Tech video show.