Zendaya and Robert Pattinson on Marriage and Secrets

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  In theory, I knew that this kind of thing can happen in any family.

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  Upstanding citizens are always turning out to be secret criminals,

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  and I would n't even call my cousin Alan an upstanding citizen.

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  But it's one thing to know and another thing to understand.

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  Alan, murder me.

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  What the hell was Alan thinking?

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  From Serial Productions and The New York Times, I'm M. Gessen, and this is The Idiot.

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  From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin.

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  This is Modern Love.

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  And today on the show, we have two guests, Zendaya and Robert Pattinson.

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  The two of them star in a new movie called The Drama.

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  They play an engaged couple who's about to get married.

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  And when I watched this movie, I had two opposite reactions at once.

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  On the one hand, I was like, they are so romantic.

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  And on the other hand, I was like.

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  I'm so stressed out by this, I need to put my hands over my eyes if I'm going to continue to watch this film.

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  I think the reason the drama hit me in this way is because it plays with a very real anxiety.

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  This idea that we can know a partner so well, but we can never truly know everything about them.

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  There's always a chance they're going to reveal something that takes us by surprise.

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