2026-02-28
1 小时 55 分钟Catherine Austin Fitz, thank you for doing this.
Hucker, thank you for doing this.
The first time we did an interview over a year ago, different worlds completely.
And I remember thinking, wow, I've rarely spoken to anyone who thinks in such big terms.
I mean, that is a compliment.
I wonder if this is all true.
I think time has proven you right.
We've had a couple of meals in the subsequent months.
And so I just want to say, I think you're really wise and I'm grateful to have you.
So I want you to know it was only 10 months ago, but it seems like a long, long time.
Man.
Time is flying.
Yeah, I meet people in airports all the time.
We're like, I used to think I was a conspiracy theorist, but now I know.
But it's kind of a variety of that.
But last time we had lunch a couple months ago, you were, telling me about, and I wish we had this on tape,
but we can recreate it here, about the control grid, a concept that you had explained when we last did an interview,
and how it was, as you said at lunch, snapping into place.
Can you just, for people who haven't seen your previous talk, explain what the control grid is?
What it looks like and what it means.