Nancy Pelosi explains her optimism

南希·佩洛西阐述她的乐观态度

Today, Explained

2026-03-21

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Nancy Pelosi, the longtime speaker of the House, plans to retire later this year at age 86 after trailblazing a path for women in Democratic politics. This episode was produced by Jesse Ash, edited by Miranda Kennedy, fact-checked by Andrea Lopez-Cruzado, engineered by Shannon Mahoney and hosted by Astead Herndon. Rep. Nancy Pelosi marking the five year anniversary of the Jan. 6th attacks at the US Capitol. Photo by Al Drago/Bloomberg via Getty Images. You can also watch this episode on video at youtube.com/vox. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. New Vox members get $20 off their membership right now. Transcript at ⁠vox.com/today-explained-podcast.⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Imagine you find an old alchemy book, and inside it says something like, Take our fiery dragon

  • that hides the magical steel in its belly with our magnet and mix them with torrid vulcan.

  • These might not seem like real instructions that someone could follow.

  • And yet, some researchers are trying to recreate alchemists' work hundreds of years later.

  • What they've found is that there's actually interesting science hidden away

  • behind some of the bizarre metaphors in these old texts.

  • That's this week on The Unexplainable Podcast.

  • So, question, who's the most consequential American elected official over the last, say, 25 years?

  • Donald Trump is the obvious answer.

  • But you could say Barack Obama, Mitch McConnell,

  • but I'd argue Nancy Pelosi, the former House Speaker and Congressional Leader of Democrats

  • who shepherded countless legislation over the Obama years and some during the Trump years.

  • She's about to turn 86 next week.

  • And her fingerprints are all over the most consequential legislation that passed through Congress over the last couple decades.

  • Now, Pelosi is set to retire after this midterm elections.

  • But before that, I had the chance to talk with her at this year's South by Southwest conference.

  • And I wanted to put in front of her all the questions that I had.

  • What made her stick around Congress after she almost was going to retire in 2016?

  • How would she define her legacy?

  • And of course, considering the political violence