Sparks fly at DHS confirmation hearing, but Trump’s pick clears committee

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  Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast.

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  I'm Tamara Keith.

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  I cover the White House.

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  I'm Ximena Bustio, and I cover immigration policy.

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  And I'm Mara Liason, senior national political correspondent.

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  Today on the show, President Trump's pick to run the Department of Homeland Security.

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  Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen was narrowly approved by the Senate's Homeland Security Committee after a heated hearing yesterday.

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  Will new leadership change anything about the way the administration has been doing immigration enforcement?

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  Jimena, before we get to policy, let's talk about that hearing.

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  Kentucky Republican Rand Paul, who heads the committee, has some issues with Mullen

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