The key to the Keir Starmer puzzle: bonus with How To Win An Election

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  Katie Prescott here from the Times Tech podcast.

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  Join me for a special sponsored episode featuring Lilia Christoffi,

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  a partner at PwC, talking about agentic AI beyond the hype.

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  She leads the firm's EMEA financial services, data and AI practice.

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  Listen wherever you get your podcasts.

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  Welcome to this bonus episode.

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  It's a crossover between how to win an election, and the state of it.

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  Sort of like if Spider-Man turned up in the X-Men.

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  If you don't listen to one of us already, what are you doing?

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  Take a long, hard look at yourself.

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  I'm Hugo Rifkind from How to Win an Election,

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  and I'm talking to the state of it's Patrick Maguire and Gabriel Pogrund about the new edition of their book Get In,

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  the definitive behind-the-scenes account of how Morgan McSweeney propelled Keir Starmer to power and then watched it all unravel at remarkable speed.

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  We're getting notification that number 10 has confirmed that Morgan McSweeney has resigned as the Prime Minister's Chief of Staff.

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  We spoke to dozens of people, both for the book and for this update.

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  And one of the things we wanted to get a sense of was, you know, what does Keir Starmer do all day?

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  How does this government work?

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  And, you know, several people made very similar remarks, which was remarks to the effect of,

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  it's not a premiership where Boris Johnson bottles around the building or you've got Gordon Brown sending furious emails at 4am in capital letters.

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  17-point font bolded up saying, you know, I've just read this amazing book by a Harvard economist.

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