Iran’s Tenacious Regime and the Future of the Gulf

伊朗坚韧政权与海湾未来

The Foreign Affairs Interview

2026-03-12

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For about two weeks, U.S. and Israeli forces have bombarded Iran. They have targeted Iranian military and nuclear sites. They have slain Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and other top Iranian officials. They have even sunk an Iranian vessel deep in the Indian Ocean. Iran has responded by hurling missiles and drones at targets in the Gulf, Israel, and elsewhere in what has become a surprisingly broad and sustained retaliation. U.S. President Donald Trump has promised Iranians some kind of regime change, but that will not be so simple. Iran has declared Khamenei’s son Mojtaba to be his successor, a move that seems to double down on the old order.  In this two-part episode, Senior Editor Daniel Block spoke with leading experts on the course of the war, the future of the Iranian regime, and the upheaval and uncertainty in the wider region.  First, Afshon Ostovar, an associate professor of national security affairs at the Naval Postgraduate School, explored how the Islamic Republic has been reshaped by the attacks—and what it would take to truly dismantle the regime. Then, Sanam Vakil, the director of the Middle East and North Africa program at Chatham House, discussed the widening remit of the war and how it has upended the assumptions and hopes of many Gulf countries.  Block spoke with Ostovar and Vakil on Tuesday, March 10. Both agree that while much remains uncertain about the trajectory of the war, it is already remaking Iran, the Gulf, and the wider Middle East in dangerous ways. You can find sources, transcripts, and more episodes of The Foreign Affairs Interview at https://www.foreignaffairs.com/podcasts/foreign-affairs-interview.
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  • I'm Dan Kurtz-Phelan and this is the Foreign Affairs interview.

  • We assume that Mochtabah understands the business of the Supreme Leader's office.

  • So he's probably, at least in terms of being an effective manager,

  • probably the best candidate because he's already an insider.

  • He already knows where the computer files are.

  • He already knows where the keys to the cabinets are, that kind of thing.

  • He knows how to do the business.

  • That's our assumption.

  • The reality is that Iran isn't just looking to end this war.

  • It's looking to end this war with guarantees.

  • The Gulf states could call President Trump and say, end this war.

  • But no one is really talking about what those guarantees are.

  • And the reality is that Gulf-Iranian relations after this war will be very broken.

  • I'm Daniel Bloch, senior editor at Foreign Affairs.

  • Dan is away this week.

  • For about two weeks, US and Israeli forces have bombarded Iran.

  • They have targeted Iranian military and nuclear sites.

  • They have slain Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and other top Iranian officials.

  • They have even sunk an Iranian vessel deep in the Indian Ocean.

  • Iran has responded by hurling missiles and drones at targets in the Gulf,