665. Werner Herzog Isn’t Afraid ...

666. 魏纳·赫尔佐格无所畏惧...

Freakonomics Radio

2026-02-27

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... of bad reviews, meager financing, or artificial intelligence. But he is worried that the world is full of sloppy thinkers who mistake facts for the truth.   SOURCES: Werner Herzog, writer, filmmaker, and actor.   RESOURCES: The Future of Truth, by Werner Herzog (2025). Every Man for Himself and God Against All: A Memoir, by Werner Herzog (2023).   EXTRAS: "When Did We All Start Watching Documentaries?" by Freakonomics Radio (2025). "Werner Herzog Thinks His Films Are a Distraction," by People I (Mostly) Admire (2023). Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • So first of all,

  • I just want to say it's really a pleasure to meet you I've consumed a fair amount of your work much less than some more than others and You strike me as maybe either the sanest Crazy person on the planet or the craziest sane person.

  • I'm only saying I I just want to hear you describe how you see the world and I'll Give you some leading questions and I want to talk about your books,

  • especially your recent book about truth.

  • But I don't know, do you feel like an unusual being?

  • No, I miss average as it can get.

  • That is Werner Herzog, the German born filmmaker and writer and actor and sort of citizen soldier.

  • He is not average.

  • Herzog has made more than 70 films.

  • All of them are spirited.

  • Some are absurdist or pretentious.

  • None of them are dull.

  • There is family romance LLC about a Japanese entrepreneur who leases out humans to other humans who for some reason may need a stand-in family member or friend.

  • There's Grizzly Man, a remarkable documentary about a man who loved bears a little too much.

  • And there are the five films that Herzog made with the actor Klaus Kinski.

  • The Kinski-Hertzog relationship was volatile and sometimes violent.

  • Their two best-known collaborations are Fitzkaraldo and Aguirre, The Wrath of God.

  • Both films are about an obsession that tips into madness.

  • In Fitzkaraldo,

  • the Kinski character needs to haul a massive steamship over a steep hill in the Amazon in order to fund a new opera house.