After disagreements with President Trump,
Oklahoma's governor talks of his party's future once Trump is out of office.
We have to get back to integrity.
We've got to get back to a limited federal government.
Kevin Stitt talks of Trump, immigration, and more on a special edition of Up First from NPR News.
I'm Steve Enskeep.
Kevin Stitt is the conservative governor of a very red state who also objected to the president's retribution campaign.
That's un-American.
We cannot be a pendulum swing where we are going back and forth and we're killing different projects based on our political views,
right?
Also, how does Stitt think about his heritage as a member of the Cherokee Nation?
He takes pride in that identity which has not prevented him from court battles with Cherokee leaders.
Stay with us for Kevin Stitt, one of the conversations that shed light on our time.
Is there an acquaintance in your life that you'd love to turn into an actual friend?
And have you thought about saying, hey, we should hang out sometime?
Maybe think again.
The more specific you are, the more likely it is that you're actually going to get together.
You know, pull out your calendar, pick a time,
pick a thing to do together, and actually follow through.
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