2025-09-20
38 分钟Strong men built the West and won the wars and built the building that we're in right now.
And without strong men, then you all of a sudden see civilization unfold upon itself.
And we're seeing that happen in real time.
It's Friday, September 19, 2025.
And welcome back to Goodfellows, a Hoover institution broadcast examining social,
economic, political, and geopolitical concerns.
I'm Bill Whalen.
I'm a Hoover Distinguished Policy Fellow.
I'll be your moderator today.
Looking forward to a spirit conversation with the three gentlemen we jokingly refer to as our good fellows.
That would be, of course, the historian, Sir Neil Ferguson,
the economist, John Cochran,
and former presidential national security advisor, Lieutenant General H.R.
McMaster, Neil John and H.R.
Our Hoover Senior Fellows.
So gentlemen, you've all been busy, even busier by your normally busy standards.
It's the last time we convened.
The three of you actually met in London not too long ago on some Hoover business.
If I can get the travel straight here,
then I think John and HR peeled off and went to Berlin after that.