2025-12-18
1 小时 7 分钟It's Monday, December 8th, 2025, and welcome back to Goodfellows,
a Hoover Institution broadcast examining history, economics, and geopolitics.
I'm Bill Whalen.
I'm a Distinguished Policy Fellow here at the Hoover Institution,
and I'll be the moderator today of a conversation featuring three of my colleagues we refer to as the Goodfellows.
I'm talking, of course, about the historian, Sir Neil Ferguson.
The economist John Cochran and former presidential national security advisor,
Lieutenant General H.R.
McMaster, Neil John and H.R.
are Hoover senior fellows.
So gentlemen, good to see you.
Before we get off the show, I have a sartorial question to ask the three of you.
Last time we were on the show, the three of you were in coats and ties.
I was not.
I felt ashamed.
I made a point to wear a coat and tie.
Brother Cochran is wearing a coat and tie.
We shamed H.R.
into wearing a coat and tie.
But here is Sir Neil, son's coat and tie.