The State of It: Gabriel Pogrund speaks out on the Labour Together scandal

现状透视:加布里埃尔·波格朗德就“劳工同行”丑闻公开发声

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2026-02-18

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The Labour Together scandal is the latest storm threatening to capsize the government - and Gabriel has been right at the heart. For the first time, he describes what happened when a Labour think tank set private investigators on a journalist. Their secret report falsely accused Gabriel of acting as a Russian agitator and "grotesquely subverted" his faith in an attack on his and his colleagues' reporting in The Sunday Times. This podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today: http://thetimes.com/thestory Hosts:  Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The TimesGabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday TimesProducer: Euan Dawtrey. Executive Producer: Dan Box. We want to hear from you - email: thestory@thetimes.com Further listening: ‘This is dark s***’: inside the political smear campaign to discredit journalists Photo: Getty Images. This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Hi, it's Manvi.

  • In this morning's episode, we looked at how Labour Together,

  • a shadowy group of activists who helped to get Keir Starmer elected,

  • had spent thousands of pounds paying for a reputation management company to investigate journalists at the Sunday Times.

  • What followed was an intensely personal smear campaign.

  • Do you have a listen to that episode for the background on this extraordinary story?

  • But one of the journalists in the eye of the storm,

  • who was actually the focus of most of these investigations, was Gabriel Pogrand.

  • In this week's episode of our Politics Podcast, the state of it,

  • Gabriel talks very honestly about what he's been through.

  • We thought you'd want to hear it, so here it is.

  • Our activists paid for smear campaign against journalists.

  • The whole of the Labour governance is an absolute cesspit.

  • It's the kind of thing you would expect in Putin's Kremlin and I think we need to know the guilty men and

  • if they're in government they should be fired.

  • The journalists in question here I think are second to none in the investigative work they do but causes problems for us but that is their job.

  • We were all lumped together as essentially useful idiots for Russia in this report.

  • You know what it's like as a journalist, if someone damages your reputation,

  • it could be career-ending, couldn't it?

  • I didn't know anything about this investigation, and it absolutely needs to be looked into,