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Why are single-sex living spaces so appealing to older women?
I'm Dashiani Navanayagam and welcome to the conversation from the BBC World Service,
the programme which explores the female experience around the world and speaks to remarkable women about the incredible things they're doing.
My guests today are Pat Dunn,
a retired nurse from Canada who set up a non-profit called Senior Women Living Together after her husband suddenly died and she found herself struggling to pay her rent.
SWLT helps women in Ontario find others to live with and now has over 2,000 members.
And Hannah Newtonen is a single mother from Finland who co-founded La Joye home base in France for women from all over the world to stay for different periods of time.
Pat and Hannah are warm welcome to the conversation.
Hello.
Oh, thanks for having me and I'm really looking forward to it.
Thank you for having me as well.
It's a pleasure to be here.
What you've both set up is often described as co-living,
but do you see this as different to a flat or a house share?
Pat, let's start with you.